Episode #17 of the Rommel Report

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Will people look back on the 2019 legislative session in Tallahassee and say it was historic? Bob welcomes Ray Rodrigues to the podcast. He is a member of the Florida House of Representatives, representing the 76th District. He believes people recognize this year as a historic one for the state. First, they start with legalizing vouchers in education and empowering parents. This a fight that was a quarter of a century in the making. Next, they discuss the reforms in health care, including getting rid of the Certificate of Need and legalizing the ability to buy prescription drugs from Canada. Can these changes in the state have wide-ranging ramification across the nation? Will these legislative victories leave an indelible mark on the state?

Find out on this informative episode of The Rommel Report!

Congressman Francis Rooney praises FEMA Hazard Mitigation grant for Marco Island

Congressman Francis Rooney made a statement thanking FEMA for awarding a Hazard Mitigation grant to the City of Marco Island to fund a generator at their Water Source Facility.

“I applaud FEMA for providing this grant to Marco Island. Our community is vulnerable to hurricanes, and it is vital that clean drinking water and sufficient fire suppression supply are available to residents in the wake of any storm. In order for our community to withstand and recover from these storms, we must put measures in place to strengthen our infrastructure and keep key services running, even after hurricanes hit. ”

The statement released by FEMA is included below.

FEMA Awards Marco Island $1.5 Million for a Generator

Orlando, Fla. – FEMA is awarding the City of Marco Island a $1,500,000 Hazard Mitigation grant to fund a generator at the Water Source Facility, located at 7130 Collier Blvd., Naples, FL 34114. The proposal is to install a 1600-kilowatt generator to keep their Water Source Facility (for potable water treatment, water pressure, and fire suppression supply to the community of Marco Island) continuously operational in the event of an outage.

Funding for this HMGP project is authorized under Section 404 of the Robert T. Stafford Act.

HMGP dollars help strengthen communities by improving buildings, facilities and infrastructure that people use every day. A 2018 report from the National Institute of Building Sciences found that one dollar spent on hazard mitigation will save more than six dollars of recovery and rebuilding costs.

Florida has a FEMA-approved Enhanced Mitigation Plan, making the state eligible for HMGP funding not to exceed 20 percent of the estimated total amount of money spent by FEMA on disaster grants in the Hurricane Irma disaster. From this amount, HMGP reimburses the state up to 75 percent of eligible costs for mitigation projects. The remaining amount comes from other sources such as state and local assets and a combination of cash and in-kind sources

Funding for this HMGP project is authorized under Section 404 of the Robert T. Stafford Act.

HMGP dollars help strengthen communities by improving buildings, facilities and infrastructure that people use every day. A 2018 report from the National Institute of Building Sciences found that one dollar spent on hazard mitigation will save more than six dollars of recovery and rebuilding costs.

Florida has a FEMA-approved Enhanced Mitigation Plan, making the state eligible for HMGP funding not to exceed 20 percent of the estimated total amount of money spent by FEMA on disaster grants in the Hurricane Irma disaster. From this amount, HMGP reimburses the state up to 75 percent of eligible costs for mitigation projects. The remaining amount comes from other sources such as state and local assets and a combination of cash and in-kind sources

The Award Goes to Collier State Committee Woman

Collier County State Committee Woman Jan Face Glassman has been awarded the Pacesetter Award by the local Collier Pace Center.

Marianne Kearns, M. Ed, Executive Director for the Collier Chapter said, “Jan is an amazing connector and advocate. She teaches me how to advocate! Since I have known Jan and that possibly could be 7 to 9 years, I have been in Immokalee for 9… She has included me and Pace into a political scene that I would not otherwise experience.

Her connections have led to amazing experiences and opportunities in Washington DC. Pace Collier is the only Pace that takes girls to Washington DC as a reward field trip. On several of the trips she has met us there but more than that, we have had meetings with the speaker of the house or his staff. We have had lengthy meetings with our Florida politicians. We have had access into the White House.

She also helps with Love That Dress which is our major fundraiser. She has been volunteering at the event for many years and now serves on the committee.

She also had a vision for more Pace outreach and shares our mission instead of Naples that I cannot reach.

Lastly she brings people to the Pace Center for tours on her own time. This furthers our mission!

Diaz-Balart: I cannot oppose a bill that seeks to prevent discrimination

Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart (FL-25) issued the following statement after voting for H.R. 5, the “Equality Act.”

“Protecting religious freedom has always been a priority for me. I have voted for and co-sponsored numerous bills that protect and promote religious freedom.

I have also dedicated my career to fighting against discrimination in all its forms. This piece of legislation is flawed and amounts to just another messaging bill pushed by Democratic Leadership that has no chance of passing the Senate and becoming law in its current form.

If House Democrats wanted to pass real legislation, they would have included bipartisan language providing legitimate protections for families, individuals, medical professionals, and religious organizations who object based on their deeply held religious beliefs. However, I cannot oppose a bill that seeks to prevent discrimination.”

Congressman Francis Rooney requests federal funding for completion of Tamiami Trail bridging project to restore Florida’s Everglades

Today, Congressman Rooney sent a letter to Secretary Elaine Chao of the U.S. Department of Transportation in support of the grant application for the FY 2019 Nationally Significant Federal Lands and Tribal Projects (NSFLTP) Program which would provide funding for the completion of the Tamiami Trail Next Steps Phase II project. This project is a key component of the Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Plan and would allow water to flow south into the Everglades and Florida Bay.

Congressman Rooney stated, “The Everglades ecosystem is vital to Florida’s economy and has a $2 trillion impact on the state. When this project is completed, water will be able to flow south into the southern Everglades and Florida bay, where it is desperately needed. Currently, Tamiami Trail acts as a barrier and heightens the risk of flooding to nearby areas and prevents. It is vital that South Florida’s ecosystem is restored to its natural state, and that starts with water flow.”

• The State of Florida recently proposed providing $40 million for this project through the Florida Department of Transportation’s work program in Governor DeSantis’ 2019-2020 recommended budget.
• In total, nearly $1.1 billion has been appropriated for Herbert Hoover Dike repairs and CERP projects in FY 2018 and FY 2019.

Not So Broken Unless You Fix It – What Is the “National Popular Vote Interstate Compact”

By Connie Ross

Rarely a day goes by that we’re not witnessing some act of defiance because Hillary Clinton won the popular vote (not withstanding Census data that calls into question counties with more registered voters than adults over the age of 18), yet lost the Electoral College. As when George W. Bush won the 2000 Presidential Election via the awarding of Florida’s 29 Electoral votes, there is a renewed demand to abolish the Electoral College in favor of selecting the U.S. President based on a majority of the Nation’s popular vote. The danger with that response is a failure to foresee eliminating the College would create a situation that’s not just one of disagreement and frustration; rather it would create a state of total cataclysm.

The Electoral College is outlined in Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, and modified by the 12th and 23rd Amendments. The Electoral College can be repealed by Constitutional amendment, but that’s a difficult road. Amendments require a two-thirds majority vote in both houses of Congress, and ratification by three-fourths of the States.

The existing methodology of electing our Nation’s leader is highly systematic and regulated. Each state is given as many Electors as they have members in the two houses of Congress, with 3 additional votes for the District of Columbia. A candidate must receive at least 270 of 538 Electoral votes to win an election. Representatives officially cast their state’s allotted “winner takes all” number of Electoral votes based on the state’s popular vote (with exception to Maine & Nebraska that split Electors between statewide popular vote and the popular vote within each Congressional district) in January, though a presumptive determination of their vote is made in November following regular ballot counting. The Achilles heel is Electors are not bound by the Constitution to vote for the candidate for whom they have pledged their vote; twice in history Electors were unfaithful. The Constitution also does not expressly limit the ‘manner’ selected by the states, and it does not actually mention an ‘Electoral College’, which has left a loophole opportunity to manipulate the process.

Exploiting that vulnerability, states are passing radical legislation to go around the Constitution and award their Electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote for President. Fourteen states and D.C. (accounting for 189 Electoral votes) have entered into the “National Popular Vote Interstate Compact”, which will go into effect when states with an additional 81 Electoral votes join the effort, for a total of 270. The National Popular Vote bill would ‘guarantee the presidency‘ to the candidate who receives the most popular votes across all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
Status of the “National Popular Vote Interstate Compact” – Click Image Below for larger view.


The problem with a process that basically resembles ‘direct elections’ is candidates would focus on winning votes in populous areas (namely the east and west coasts) and ignore the middle of the country. In a race to run up a mathematical majority, there would be no need to build a broad cross-national coalition representative of diverse demographic populations. Without the College, entire presidential campaigns could look past the smaller states and be waged from the media centers in New York and Los Angeles.

Chaos is the other matter of concern when utilizing nation-wide popular vote tallies. In a February 2001 issue of State Legislatures, Norman Ornstein revisited the 2000 election recount situation in Florida some of us may recall. He suggested that Florida provided a perfect example of what would happen if the College was abolished. He began by pointing out that there would be no quick or clean resolution to an election. Using Florida as a sample, he expanded the recount situation there into nation-wide perspective. What he said is, “But that would not be a recount like Florida–confined to 67 counties, each with its own clear-cut partisan power and structure and administration. Instead we would have a nationwide recount, taking place in thousands of election units, some counties, some cities, some precincts, depending on individual states. All the ballot boxes in the country would have to be impounded. Instead of the squadron of lawyers who have descended on Florida to oversee, sue and kibitz about the recounts, we would have armies of lawyers, exceeding the troops massed for the D-Day invasion, fanning out across the country to argue, bicker and litigate.” In percentage terms, even half of a percent is not trivial in the sizable whole numbers that would trigger recount demands.

The beauty of the Electoral College system is it yields a decisive margin to declare the winner; and it’s directed by intricate rules, alternatives, and deadlines, which have resulted in generally stable elections and a balance of power for small states. Such order and regulation would not be possible when dealing with hundreds of millions of individual votes to establish a nation-wide vote total. Assuming the raw number of popular votes in itself it is not challenged in upcoming elections; lawsuits questioning the validity of employing the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact will keep election results in the courts for a dangerous period of time. Any inability to maintain the historical Electoral College precedent is destined to initiate devastating turmoil and instability. Nevada will become the latest state to join the Compact, adding 6 votes as soon as the governor signs their state’s bill passed May 21st.. Let’s closely monitor this situation in Florida and advocate against it.

Rooney, Baldwin, Braun, Schakowsky, Introduce Reform Requiring Transparency in Prescription Drug Price Increases

The bipartisan FAIR Drug Pricing Act takes the first step to address skyrocketing prescription drug costs 

Drug corporations’ aggressive increases in prescription drug prices are making lifesaving treatments unaffordable for families, taxpayers and our health care system

U.S. Senators Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) and Mike Braun (R-IN) and U.S. Representatives Francis Rooney (R-FL) and Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) introduced the FAIR Drug Pricing Act. The bipartisan, bicameral legislation takes the first step in addressing skyrocketing prescription drug prices by requiring transparency for pharmaceutical corporations that plan to increase drug prices. Senators Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Tina Smith (D-MN) have also signed on as cosponsors of the FAIR Drug Pricing Act.

Congressman Rooney stated, “The rising cost of prescription drugs is spiraling out of control. Millions of Americans cannot afford their medication, putting their lives and health at risk, and costing taxpayers billions in Medicare costs. Prices must be lowered, and access to vital drugs must increase for American consumers. My goal is to lower prescription drug prices by increasing transparency, and that is why I am introducing the FAIR Drug Pricing Act– to make big pharmaceutical companies justify the price hikes on the medicines that Americans need.”

“For too long, I’ve heard story after story from Wisconsinites who are struggling to afford the life-saving medications they need,” said Senator Baldwin. “Drug corporations are making prescription drugs more and more expensive with no systematic transparency to taxpayers. My bipartisan reform will change that and demand answers from drug companies who are jacking up the prices on the medications that Americans need. It is time for Congress to take action and take on the rising costs of medicine people depend on.”

“It’s time for pharmaceutical companies to clean up their act, otherwise they will be stuck with one customer: the federal government,” said Senator Braun. “This legislation will help push them into the right direction by requiring transparency and justification before drug companies can increase the cost of certain drugs by more than 10 percent over one year or 25 percent over three years.”

“Drug pricing reform is a bipartisan priority that we must address now. The American people are demanding to know why life-saving prescription drugs that are developed with their taxpayer dollars cost them so much. I am proud that Senators Tammy Baldwin and Mike Braun have now joined me and Representative Rooney in introducing this long overdue legislation to expose the profiteering of drug corporations. The bill will for the first time give taxpayers notice of price increases and bring basic transparency to the market for prescription drugs. There are no loopholes or carveouts in this bill, and I hope that my colleagues will join me in fighting for the passage of this bill so that Big Pharma will finally have to answer to answer to the American people,” said Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky.

Over the past five years, brand name drug prices have increased at 10 times the rate of inflation. AbbVie has increased the price of top-selling anti-inflammatory drug Humira by almost 250 percent in the past five years to nearly $40,000. Pfizer regularly increases the price of its drugs – often twice a year. In 2017, Pfizer raised drug prices twice by an average of 20 percent for more than 90 drugs.

Meanwhile, American taxpayers continue to pay more each year because of the rising costs of drugs. Medicare spent nearly $130 billion on prescription drugs in 2016, and Medicare’s portion of U.S. national drug spending has increased from 18 percent in 2006 to 30 percent in 2017.

The Fair Accountability and Innovative Research (FAIR) Drug Pricing Act would require drug manufacturers to disclose and provide more information about planned drug price increases, including research and development costs. Increased transparency will help provide much-needed context for taxpayers, consumers and policymakers about the costs and value of medications and may also incentivize companies to reassess the long-standing practice of relentless drug price increases.

Specifically, the FAIR Drug Pricing Act would require drug manufacturers to notify the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and submit a transparency and justification report 30 days before they increase the price of certain drugs that cost at least $100 by more than 10 percent in one year or 25 percent over three years. The report will require manufacturers to provide a justification for each price increase, manufacturing, research and development costs for the qualifying drug, net profits attributable to the qualifying drug, marketing and advertising spending on the qualifying drug, and other information as deemed appropriate. The bill will not prohibit manufacturers from increasing prices, but it will, for the first time, give taxpayers notice of price increases and bring basic transparency to the market for prescription drugs.

The FAIR Drug Pricing Act is supported by AARP, Campaign for Sustainable Rx Pricing, National Multiple Sclerosis Society, Patients For Affordable Drugs, American College of Physicians (ACP), American Academy of Neurology, Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, The Medicare Rights Center, Families USA, Center for Medicare Advocacy, Inc., Marshfield Clinic Health System, Security Health Plan, Alliance of Community Health Plans (ACHP), National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare, Alliance for Retired Americans, and Medicare Rights Center.

“Big Pharma has a demonstrated track record of price-gouging American patients and squeezing taxpayers with opaque list price increases,” said Campaign for Sustainable Rx Pricing (CSRxP) executive director Lauren Aronson. “The FAIR Drug Pricing Act would introduce much needed transparency to the marketplace by requiring drug makers to justify price hikes. We applaud the bipartisan leadership of the FAIR Drug Pricing Act’s sponsors.”

“Medications can only change lives if people can afford them,” said Bari Talente, Executive Vice President of Advocacy at the National Multiple Sclerosis Society. “While bringing down high prescription drug costs will require a combination of policy changes, the FAIR Drug Pricing Act will lead the way by requiring both advanced notice and justification of price increases above certain threshold amounts. Under these thresholds, several manufactures of MS disease-modifying therapies would need to justify price increases for their MS products. We applaud Senators Baldwin and Braun and Representatives Schakowsky and Rooney for taking this important first step to addressing high drug costs.”

Rooney Meets with Army Corps to Discuss Lake Okeechobee Water Releases and Status of CERP Projects

Today, Congressman Francis Rooney met with Colonel Andrew Kelly, Jacksonville District Commander of the United States Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), to receive an update on CERP projects scheduled for construction, and to discuss the critical issues relating to Lake Okeechobee water levels.

Congressman Rooney stated, “To date, the water level in Lake Okeechobee is at 11.2ft, which is a vast improvement over this time in 2018. We are entering our rainy season well positioned to minimize discharges into the Caloosahatchee and ultimately the Gulf. Additionally, the USACE has made clear their commitment to complete as many CERP projects as possible with the $200 million in funding that I requested that the President include in his amended budget. This funding will also allow for planning and design of the EAA reservoir. I appreciate the effort that the Jacksonville District has applied to reducing discharges from the lake and expediting Everglades restoration projects.”


  • In February, Congressman Rooney met with Major General Scott A. Spellmon, Deputy Commanding General for Civil and Emergency Operations for the Army Corps of Engineers, about funding for Lake Okeechobee and Everglades Restoration projects. At that time, they also discussed lake levels and their importance to SWFL water quality.
  • Congressman Rooney has successfully fought for funding to complete Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Plan (CERP) projects, united the Florida delegation and personally brought House leadership to Southwest Florida to see the watershed first hand. These efforts have led to nearly $1.1 billion being appropriated for dike repairs and CERP projects in FY 2018 and FY 2019.
  • In April, Congressman Rooney led a letter to the President requesting $200 million for Everglades restoration in the Administration’s FY 2020 budget. The Administration has met this request.

Rooney Cosponsors Bipartisan Bill to Build National 5G Strategy, Protect U.S. Telecommunications Infrastructure from National Security Threats

According to a 2018 NATO Report, Huawei’s Growing Role as a Supplier of 5G Could Be Exploited by China to Commit Espionage, Monitor Foreign Corporations and Governments, & Support Chinese Military Operations

Legislation Would Require the Administration to Develop a Strategy to Safeguard the Next Generation of Mobile Telecommunications from Foreign Influence

U.S. Representative Abigail Spanberger introduced a bipartisan bill, cosponsored by Representative Francis Rooney, to protect next-generation telecommunications systems and mobile infrastructure in the United States.

According to a 2018 North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) report, Huawei’s growing influence as a leading supplier of 5G technology could be exploited by China to engage in espionage, monitor foreign corporations and governments, and support Chinese military operations. To combat the potential cyber threats associated with a Huawei 5G monopoly, the report recommends that non-Chinese companies invest in 5G research and development—and it calls on U.S. and European companies to reconsider the integration of Huawei technology into their 5G infrastructure.

The Secure 5G and Beyond Act would require the administration to develop an unclassified, national strategy to protect U.S. consumers and assist allies in maximizing the security of their 5G telecommunications systems. The strategy would also identify additional ways to spur research and development by U.S. companies in a way that maintains access for all Americans.

“The United States has long been responsible for the groundbreaking achievements of the digital age. However, the growing prominence of 5G telecommunications systems in China and abroad, particularly through Huawei, should concern all Americans,” said Spanberger. “To protect our national security and maintain our economic strength, we must build a nationwide game plan to strengthen our mobile networks and protect the privacy of American families. Today, I’m proud to lead the introduction of a bipartisan bill to require a smart strategy, because safeguarding Americans’ access to the next generation of telecommunications should never be a partisan issue. As we work to achieve faster internet speeds and wider connectivity, our legislation would make sure we have a plan to deliver innovative technology to U.S. consumers, compete with China, and prevent foreign influence in 5G networks.”

“The United States needs to be proactive in preventing any vulnerabilities that could be exploited by our adversaries. In our increasingly interconnected world, that means protecting our telecommunications and infrastructure, and those of our allies, from malign foreign interference,” said Rooney. “I am proud to cosponsor the Secure 5G and Beyond Act to ensure the safety, security, and freedom of the United States and to safeguard our technology infrastructure.”

Specifically, the bipartisan Secure 5G and Beyond Act would require the administration to build an interagency strategy to:

  • Secure 5th generation and future-generation telecommunications systems and infrastructure across the United States;
  • Assist U.S. allies and defense partners in maximizing the security of 5G systems and infrastructure in their countries; and
  • Protect the competitiveness of U.S. companies, the privacy of U.S. consumers, and the integrity of international standards-setting bodies against foreign political influence.

The Secure 5G and Beyond Act is companion legislation to a bill introduced in the U.S. Senate by U.S. Senators John Cornyn (R-TX), Mark Warner (D-VA), and Richard Burr (R-NC).


A 2018 report from the NATO Cooperative Cyber Defense Center of Excellence warned that integration of Huawei as a 5G provider could create long-term negative consequences.

Currently, the Chinese government’s Made in China 2025 plan calls 5G a “strategic emerging industry.” Already, Chinese tech companies own 36 percent of all 5G standard-essential patents, whereas U.S.-based companies only possess 14 percent of critical 5G patents. Earlier this year, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Dunford called the potential risks of a Chinese-built 5G network “a critical national security issue” for the United States.

RPOF Leaders Galvanize for 2020 at Quarterly Meeting in Sarasota

Left to Right; Nanette Rivera, Terry Capsay, Mary Waller, Russell Tuff

Collier Republicans joined Republicans activists from across the state at the Republican Party of Florida Spring Quarterly Meeting this weekend excited for 2020.

“We were just talking about how to continue to win here in Florida,” said RPOF state chair Joe Gruters. “We had a lot of wins this legislative cycle.”

Heading into this presidential election, state party leaders feel good about the state of the party.

When asked what Collier representatives had to say, Collier County Campaign 2020 Co-Chair Nanette Rivera said, “The sessions were open, transparent and many discussions were helpful and informative, and Chairman Gruters is trying to make the RPOF staff responsive to County needs and partners for Counties to leverage tools, databases, and experts. I was delighted that chairman Gruters highlighted that Collier is working on learning Best Practices across 5 counties and offered our help to Panama City committeeman. The whole event was collegiate and helpful for networking.”

Fellow campaign committee member Terry Capsay said, “The RPOF Quarterly Meeting provided a very productive and inspiring forum for conservative leaders to exchange their ideas, practices and tools to keep Florida “red” and to re-elect President Trump. It was quite encouraging to see that the GOP team at county state and national levels are truly in sync about the 2020 mission.”

State Committeewoman Jan Face-Glassman and State Attorney Ashley Moody

Collier Chairman Russell Tuff said, “I was proud to see so many Collier Republicans with passion to win, showing up to learn more on how to bring Collier voters to new heights in voter turnout and voting Republican. It is critical for us to raise the bar to ensure a Florida win because without the margin Collier provided, neither Senator Rick Scott or Governor Ron DeSantis would have won in 2018.

State Committee Woman Jan Face-Glassman said, “RPOF quarterly meetings always provide an excellent opportunity to meet other State Committeewoman along with County Chairs and State Committeemen and to share experiences. We all can learn from new ideas no matter how long we have been involved politically. Florida Counties are all very different; learning the demographics of each, listening to their issues and solutions, and talking through problems always helps us improve. My goal at each RPOF meeting is to develop strong relationships with other counties, especially with the women in those counties, and to maintain contact with them between meetings. While I am a member of several Federated Women’s Clubs, i recognize that these clubs represent a very small percentage of Republican women. As State Committeewomen, we must also reach beyond those clubs to engage the other women while at the same time working with the clubs to help them recruit greater membership. The meeting in Sarasota was a new experience in a location other than Orlando. It was well-executed and focused on engaging families in the process, which is critical for County Leaders who dedicate so much time to the party. ”

“The Party and Presidential Campaign are completely and seamlessly integrated this cycle,”said Christian Ziegler, RPOF vice chair.

The party also enjoyed success in statewide races despite a national Democratic wave, with Republicans holding the Governor’s mansion and flipping a Senate seat red.

“I have never seen the grassroots activists of the Republican Party as unified as they are right now, in 2019,” Ziegler said.

The party through this election cycle plans to hold meetings throughout the state, and not just in population centers like Orlando and Tampa.

“I decided to bring our meeting on the road to allow more people to highlight their areas,” Gruters said.

Ziegler said it’s a good move to take the quarterly meetings into various corners of Florida.

Party members proposed venues for coming meetings, and Gruters selected from that list. Meetings won’t always be in mid-sized markets, but there’s more variety in cities than in past years.

On August 16 and 17, the party will hold its Summer Quarterly at Sandestin Beach & Resort in Miramar Beach.

The Fall Quarterly and Statesman’s Dinner takes place Nov. 7 through 9 at Coronado Springs at Walt Disney World.

Then next January, RPOF leaders convene at the Wyndham Grand Jupiter.

The Spring Quarterly in May next year takes place at the Mission Inn Resort & Club in Howey-in-the-Hills.

The Summer Quarterly in 2020 will happen at the Republican National Convention in North Carolina.